25.05.2008

VanceS contributed 160 messages, 13 emotes during 130 minutes. 2008.05.25 05:09:37 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. VanceS: Bonjour VanceS . o O ( s'il n'y a quelqueun ici? ) VanceS . o O ( ou bien ... personnnnne! ) VanceS va en cherche des chats ... ClaireB joined the room. VanceS: oh Hi claire ClaireB: hi guys ClaireB: all guys here today VanceS: I've been poking at those over there VanceS: they appear to be made of wax ClaireB: hmm VanceS: fair likenesses though ClaireB -) ClaireB: so vance, do you have your ticket for Japan? VanceS: no, kind of woke up last night thinking about it VanceS: and I need a place as well ClaireB: better get it -- it's high season VanceS: with oil prices double from last year, it's all hgh season now VanceS: american airlines are going bankrupt at the rate of one a week, I read today VanceS: I mean small airline companies in the USA ClaireB: that might be true -- and now they will start charging $15 per checked bag NinaTL joined the room. VanceS: because of the weight ClaireB: hi nina VanceS: Hi Nina ClaireB hugs nina NinaTL: Hi everybody ClaireB: yes, because of the fuel prices VanceS: how come I didn't get a hug? NinaTL hugs Claire and Vance NinaTL: You just did ClaireB: because just guys in the room then ClaireB hugs vance VanceS: thank YOU Nina NinaTL: Fuel prices, arrgghh ClaireB: how come I didn't get a hug VanceS hugs Nina and Claire too NinaTL: They are topping $4/gallon around here VanceS: you just did NinaTL: I managed to get $3.86/gal on friday but not much longer ClaireB: that's about the same price as in pittsburgh ClaireB: nina, do you get supermarket deals on gas? NinaTL: No, how does it work? VanceS: let's see, here, I'm not sure, but prices set, unchanged ClaireB: for one chain here, for every $50 you spend, you get 10 cents per gallon off NinaTL: I would guess lower prices in Abu Dhabi NinaTL: No, we don't have that VanceS: good guess! ClaireB: what's the price of gas per liter in abu dhabi? NinaTL: Higher though in Europe, much higher VanceS: don't recall, it's not a concern here NinaTL: We are still spoiled ClaireB: yes, americans don't know how good they have it NinaTL: I can remember 35 cents per gallon though (shows you how old I am) ClaireB: i got rid of my car 2 years ago and have not regretted it VanceS: I remember 20 cents a gallon in Texas ClaireB: about once a year i get into a situation where i need transport, and i take a taxi for about $10 NinaTL: If you lived 25 miles from your job as I do, you couldn't have done it ClaireB: with the car, i was paying $70 for car insurance alone ClaireB: to say nothing of repairs, license, gas, etc VanceS: did you guys make it to the SL conference this weekend? NinaTL: Yes, it is very expensive, but short of moving or quitting my job there is not much I can do ClaireB: i can do it because i live near my job, and my husband has a car NinaTL: No, Vance you know I have still never been to SL NinaTL: You are lucky Claire! ClaireB: i went to the sl conference for a few minutes but then real life pulled me out VanceS: it was an excellent conf NinaTL: I try to take the bus once a week but it's very time-consuming ClaireB: i think daf was a presenter? NinaTL: Cheap, but 2 hours each way VanceS: she presented twice ClaireB: good deal ClaireB: i saw that a lot of people were there NinaTL: Not getting into SL is kind of like not buying ice cream for me VanceS: very crowded, causing lags in presentations ClaireB: a lot of the lab directors (mostly not webheads) are very big fans of sl ClaireB: yes i noticed the lag NinaTL: Are Phil and jeff here lurking? NinaTL: or afk? ClaireB: what do you mean, nina? that you might get addicted to sl? VanceS: oh those? they're cardboard cutouts ThomasLev joined the room. ClaireB: hi tom ClaireB hugs tom VanceS: one fell over a moment ago, I set it back up VanceS: hey tom ClaireB: (see? guys don't hug) ThomasLev: hello! hugs returned! NinaTL: Yes, exactly, Claire, it would take up too much time. I already don't have time to explore the tools I already know about ClaireB: he just proved me wrong NinaTL: Hi Tom, welcome! NinaTL hugs Tom ClaireB: i'm glad that there are starting to be articles and comments about teaching in sl. NinaTL: They talk about hugging though ClaireB: it seems to me that if people just go there and lecture, it's not that much of an advance ClaireB: lol, nina NinaTL: It's like answering the phone and saying "This is she" NinaTL: How many guys do you know who would say "This is he"? PhilB is back PhilB: Bonjour, everyone. NinaTL: Hi Phil PhilB: Welcome to Tapped In. ClaireB: i do know some who would say that, nina VanceS: Someone who's doing SL with his femaie students in Dubai might turn up today ClaireB: wb, phil PhilB: Did somebody talk about gas prices? NinaTL: but you have to admit it's pretty rare for men VanceS: bonjour phil ClaireB: yes, we were NinaTL: How much per liter in France? PhilB: Cost me 72 euros to fill the tank on Wednesday. That's like 110 dollars. VanceS: nous parlons au sujet de deuxieme vie NinaTL: Ouch PhilB: 1.44 euros per litre. NinaTL: Do you have a Hummer? (haha) ClaireB: i just tried out the "this is he" on my husband, but it didn't work because he said "speaking" NinaTL: It costs me about $37-40 to fill up my Hyundai Elantra VanceS: sounds like he has a semi PhilB: So, what wild and crazy pedagogical stuff have y'all been up to lately? NinaTL: Yup, that's what they say! NinaTL: I sometimes say "Speaking" too. Women have more choices! NinaTL: Anyway, my point is that :hugs is not for the most part a guy thing ClaireB: hmm, i would always say this is she, but it might be my age and/or my southern background VanceS: http://slanguages.net just happened this weekend ClaireB: yes, you are right VanceS: I'm still stoked NinaTL: I myself feel shy about hugging people I don't really know ThomasLev: on chat? or in RL? VanceS: twitter was down this morning, dbase crash ClaireB: that's why when i entered today and there were only men, i just said hi NinaTL: It's easier when you've already hugged in real life! NinaTL: in chat ClaireB: twitter has been down on and off for 3-4 days ClaireB: some of my severely addicted twitpals are majorly upset ClaireB: i'm not kidding NinaTL: I could hug Jeff because I've known him for years, but I feel shy about hugging Phil, whom I just met here last week VanceS: all those 140 character tweets piling up inside ClaireB: that's an interesting topic nina, becuase depending on who it is, i might find it easier to hug online NinaTL: I am much better at keeping my Facebook status up-to-date--I rarely go to Twitter ClaireB: i actually learn a lot on twitter -- it all depends on who you follow ThomasLev: How about "abrazos"? Or "kiss on both cheeks?" ClaireB: there you go ClaireB: i get at least one really useful piece of info on twitter every day NinaTL: It's one of the many things I don't have time to explore fully VanceS: no one has time, in a way that's the beauty of twitter NinaTL: I am on vacation now until Aug 1 (with projects to do for work at home, but no grueling commute eating up my day) PhilB: slanguages looks very cool. Did you attend, Vance? ClaireB: i actually like the restriction to 140 characters ClaireB: nice, nina! ThomasLev tries to sympathize for twitter withdrawal VanceS: how grueling is the commute? VanceS: I think Tom just tweeted NinaTL: That's it, Vance, I like Facebook, I can say stuff I am doing in real life, but in Twitter I feel like I should be posting cool new urls and tools and then following up on everybody else's cool urls and tools ClaireB: there is now some tool that allows one to input more than 140 characters, but i think it's a bad idea NinaTL: and I don't have time ClaireB: many people just twit about what they are doing in real life VanceS: I saw that Claire, it's in my del.icio.us NinaTL: Two hours by car, 4 hours by bus (per day) VanceS . o O ( which, in the case of some people, is nothing much ) ClaireB: nina, you could twit from your cell phone NinaTL: Somebody criticized that practice ClaireB: i twit on my iphone VanceS: you can, how about jott.com NinaTL: I have an old phone, I don't use it for IM NinaTL: or internet ClaireB: http://jott.com/ VanceS: yep NinaTL: What's that? ClaireB: i put in the url because then when i get the transcript via email, i'll have it for my resource file VanceS: you can make a phone call, say 'twitter' and if you've set it up in converts you speech into text and tweets it NinaTL: Phil where is Chateauroux? NinaTL: No kidding ClaireB: cool NinaTL: I wonder if you have an accent how it manages ClaireB: is twitter still restricted where you are, vance? VanceS: or no shit, as one prefers ClaireB: i see you there occasionally VanceS: yes, it is VanceS: like I can't get it now NinaTL: Guys, I have a busy day ahead--we are having about 20 people over for a cookout tonight PhilB: Châteauroux is SW of PAris, in the middle of the trianlge formed by Orleans, Tours and Limoges. VanceS: I can get crowdstatus NinaTL: so I have to get busy, making spanakopita, chopping veggies... VanceS: 30 people, who so many? PhilB: I just did a cookout, just in time as it's clouding over. VanceS: spanakopita? NinaTL: Less than 20 actually NinaTL: but more than 15 NinaTL: Greek spinach triangles in phyllo dough ThomasLev: save us some spanakopita ThomasLev: (mpossible request) VanceS: I think I had one of those this morning NinaTL: If Dennis or Rita drop in tell them I said hi ClaireB: here's somethng interesting: twitter presenter http://johnjohnston.name/tw/present.php VanceS: I didn't know its name NinaTL: Is Rita's interview project going ahead this week, as far as you know? ClaireB: oh god i love spanakopita!!!!! ThomasLev: we'll send virtual hugs/abrazos NinaTL: It's easy to make, Claire ClaireB: ok, i will nina ClaireB: i have a greek market a block from my house, so i don't need to make it NinaTL: As long as you don't have to "open" the phyllo, as the Greeks say NinaTL: Lucky you! NinaTL: Okay, have a good week everyone, and for those of us stateside, a good long weekend! ClaireB hugs nina goodbye JoseD joined the room. ClaireB: hi jose NinaTL hugs everyone who is here paying attention and exits NinaTL left the room (signed off). ThomasLev: thanks - cu Nina ThomasLev: hugs JoseD: Heloo Claire ClaireB: where are you, jose? JoseD: in Brasilia. ThomasLev: oops- Hi Jose JoseD: Hi Thomas ClaireB: cool! do you work for casa thomas jefferson? JoseD: Yes Claire. Taht is me ClaireB: so do I know you? VanceS: hi jose JoseD: WE have met f2f in July last year JoseD: Hi Vance JoseD: My name is Jose Antonio JoseD: My id here is shorter ClaireB: yes! JoseD: Doyou remember me Claire? VanceS: where did you meet? JoseD: We met before your presentation at the Casa Thomas Jefferson Seminar VanceS: brazil, yes? VanceS: in Brazilia? JoseD: Here in Brasília Vance. ClaireB: we are in a photo together here: http://www.edvista.com/holidays/07/brasil/webheads/ VanceS: Carla's place ClaireB: it's good to see you here ClaireB: it's the last photo on the page JoseD: Yes, that is anice picture VanceS: see, clairE DOES hug ClaireB: vance, that is Erika on the far right, next to jose ClaireB: erika will be coming to worldcall in japan VanceS: I met her in Seattle JoseD: Yes I closed my eyes when the photographer pushed the buttom ClaireB: casa thomas jefferson is doing some outstanding work in call JoseD: Yes she will. she is such a sweet person JoseD: Yes, we have a great team JoseD: Ronaldo Junior, Carla Arena, DennisOl joined the room. JoseD: And Erika ThomasLev: Hi Dennis! JoseD: Hi Dennis ClaireB: hi dennis ClaireB hugs dennis DennisOl: Hi, everyone. Hugs all around! ThomasLev: hugs VanceS: Heeeerrrr\zzzzzzzzzzz DENNIS DennisOl: Who's he? VanceS: he was here a minute ago DennisOl: Ah, I see. ClaireB: how are things going, jose? JoseD: Who is he? VanceS: this is he! JoseD: things are ging great Claire. How about you? VanceS points over there PhilB left the room (signed off). PhilB joined the room. DennisOl: Çlaire: Did you see your photo at the TESOL website? ClaireB: yeah, i did, more's the pity :-) ClaireB: I'm ok jose; very busy as usual DennisOl chuckles VanceS: I didn't ClaireB: jose, i will be seeing erika in japan this summer ClaireB: and so will vance PhilB: ((net connection crashed)) ClaireB: dennis, don't tell people about the photos DennisOl: The CALL conference will be a life-changing opportunity for many. DennisOl: OK, Claire. ClaireB: it is shaping up to be the biggest worldcall ever PhilB: So which photos are these? Can we have a link? ((nudge, nudge, wink, wink)) VanceS: the call conference? WorlDCALL? ClaireB: eys DennisOl: Wonderful! ClaireB: yes JoseD: I wish I could be in Japan. It would be a good chance of meeting some webheads ClaireB: phil, it's just a slideshow that they put on the tesol website -- photos from the conference ClaireB: i wish you could too, jose -- maybe next time DennisOl: WorldCall 2008: DennisOl: http://www.worldcall.org/ JoseD: I know very few of them f2f, ClaireB: yeah, at present i'm webmaster of that site JoseD: It does not matter that much. I l DennisOl: I didn't realize that, Claire. Good job! ClaireB: it's sitting on a server in pittsburgh DennisOl: Amazing! ClaireB: jose, finish your thought? VanceS: No one ever gave Phil the picture links JoseD: I love being with bpeople online VanceS: one is here http://www.edvista.com/holidays/07/brasil/webheads/ VanceS: I guess the other is at tesol.org somewhere ClaireB: yes, jose and i are in the last photo, along with other brazilian webheads ClaireB: yeah me too, jose JoseD: The web is a nice place to learn and make friends ClaireB: well guys, my husband has informed me that he ia already lusting after the new iphone that it's even out yet PhilB: Cool! I had the pleasure of meeting Bee a few years ago at Cyberlangues here in France. ClaireB: he has had his present iphone for less than a year ClaireB: bee is very cool ClaireB: i meant not even out yet JoseD: Bee is one I am proud to have met many times. In fact I will seeher next Friday PhilB: She kindly took over my Euro Language Teachers conference for a while, back in 2003, when I dropped out of Tapped In. VanceS: a man's gotta lust after sumpfin' ClaireB: yeah, i figure that since he doesn't smoke or drink, he's entitled JoseD: She was the one that introduced me to the world of Blogs, and etc ClaireB: jose, is that the conference at fortaleza? VanceS: I've met Bee a couple of times, she gets around ClaireB: does she ever ClaireB: almost as much as you do, vance DennisOl: Fortaleza conference: PhilB: Blogs still get a lot of undeserved bad press. DennisOl: http://www.braz-tesol.org.br/convencao/default.asp PhilB: Like any tool, you can do good or bad with them. ClaireB: ah but that conference isn't next week VanceS . o O ( trying to think if I've seen a bad blog ) ClaireB: i loooove brazil and can't wait to go back JoseD: We will have a regional TESOL event here in Brasilia and Bee will present the opening plenary ClaireB: good deal VanceS: she tweeted that she was in teh countryside working on it ClaireB: i thought that she can't tweet from the countryside PhilB: An example of a bad blog is when a 12-year-old girl at a local school here got the stuffing beat out of her and the assailants put the video on their blog. PhilB: French people are afraid of blogs, and they are generally banned in schools. VanceS: aha, Claire might have caught Bee out on that one ClaireB: if people want to prohibit garbage, why don't they just prohibit television? it would make as much sense VanceS: there's a cybercafe in the town where they go to eat I think ClaireB: aha, that explains it VanceS: That's a bad bad blog, Phil VanceS: but it's not the blog, it's the people VanceS: like with cars, guns, etc PhilB: I think instead of banning media that is seen as "non-educational" like blogs, chats and cellphones, we should co-opt it for teaching. ClaireB: exactly DennisOl: Definitely. ClaireB: there was a big debate on chronicle of higher education this week about banning laptops in class VanceS: it's not the media, it's the message ClaireB: which some profs are starting to do VanceS . o O ( who said that? ) ClaireB: exactly VanceS gives hint: MM ClaireB: marshall mcLuhan (probably not spelled correctly) ClaireB: read it in the 60s PhilB: Take mp3 players. Many schools here ban them, but next school year I'm going to try a new twist by having kids DL target-language conversations and news reports on their mp3 player, so they can do oral comprehension outside of class hours. VanceS: well done, my next hint was going to be, not Mickey Mouse PhilB: Here they call it "ballado-diffusion". It's all the rage in the right circles. ClaireB: sounds like a good plan, phil ClaireB: what is ballado JoseD: At the school I teach they were banning you tube, we managed to lift the ban SedatA joined the room. PhilB: Because walkmans and mp3 players are called "balladeurs" in French. VanceS: Hi sedat SedatA: hi all ClaireB: good for you, jose ClaireB: hi sedat ClaireB: where are you, sedat? SedatA: in Turkey ClaireB: i think you have been here before? SedatA: if you asked the country... ThomasLev: Hi Sedat! SedatA: I was here but I was disconnected VanceS: sedat is one of our most prolific volunteers SedatA: hi... SedatA: thank you Vance.... JoseD: Sorry will have to leave. Nice chatting wiht you ClaireB: praise from vance is high praise indeed ClaireB: come back soon, jose VanceS: cya at nelba's jose\ ThomasLev: cu Jose PhilB: One of my favorite online vids is the Berlitz ad, "sinking about". Hilarious. JoseD: I will . Havea gretat Sunday JoseD left the room (signed off). DennisOl: Take care, JA. Até logo! ClaireB: give us the url, please, phil PhilB: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=12894390 ClaireB: vance, you are going to nelba's house? VanceS: no she's carrying on a parallel chat in Yahoo VanceS: talking about twitter ClaireB: ah VanceS: I think it was supposed to be speech enabled but it's a stream of text at the moment SedatA left the room (signed off). SedatA joined the room. DennisOl: Funny YouTube--unless you're German. VanceS: url? ClaireB: please tell nelba i said not to worry about having a chair during her poster session at worldcall PhilB: Dennis, it could just as easily have been a Frenchman. ClaireB: welcome back, sedat VanceS: oh, sorry, missed a url SedatA: thank you Claire DennisOl: I agree, Phil. SedatA: I clicked on the link SedatA: and it refreshed the page SedatA: so I lost the link SedatA: could you please send it again, Phil? PhilB: Sedat, you probably need to set your browser to accept popup windows from this site. SedatA: I did PhilB: Otherwise TI will log you out every time you click on a link. DennisOl: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=12894390 SedatA: but when I did it... it refreshed SedatA: thank you Dennis PhilB: IIRC, there is a little trick to avoid getting logged out... was it "ctrl+click" or something like that? DennisOl: My pleasure, Sedat. DennisOl: Yes, that opens a link in a new window. ClaireB: i love this message on the twitter help blog: ClaireB: he issue that we experienced today is actually not related to the problem we experienced yesterday. In turn, these two problems do not share the same cause with the downtime we experienced last week. At root is the database, but the cause is different. PhilB: Clear as water from a rock. VanceS: hey, that's longer than 140 hcaracters ClaireB: i'm learning a lot about databases right now. when they are good, they are very very good, but.... VanceS . o O ( could be a phisher ) ClaireB: i copied and pasted it from the twitter help blog VanceS: oh, the twitter macroblog ThomasLev: hmmm ClaireB: as i said (ahem) it's from the blog VanceS: by the way what does this do: http://johnjohnston.name/tw/present.php ClaireB: makes your last twit very big VanceS: I'd like to know more before I give it my password VanceS: oh, yes, I heard about it I think ClaireB: i did, and it just showed up my last twit but very big VanceS: by big you mean large characters? VanceS: doesn't big twit mean something in british english? VanceS slaps thight VanceS . o O ( thigh, sorry ) DennisOl: Even in American English, a "twit" is like a ninny. PhilB: I don't recall ever hearing the word "twit" in the US until Monty Python came out in the mid-70s on public TV. PhilB: Could be regional, though. Us Iowans were ever a backward folk. <g> DennisOl: It's not a common, everyday word. It refers to someone you think is silly or stupid. ClaireB: yes i mean large characters VanceS: still, curious how ... ah, thanks claire DennisOl: Twit (Merriam-Webster): DennisOl: http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=twit VanceS: so it appears in our twitter feed as big characters? ClaireB: i just discovered that it has all my previous tweets -- at least the last 20 or so ClaireB: i guess it goes to twitter and retrieves them VanceS: twitter presenter has your previous tweets? ClaireB: eys ClaireB: yes ClaireB: i guess because i gave it my password ClaireB: but i don't care because there is nothing secret there DennisOl: I'll be back in a few minutes . . . . PhilB: So, we seem to be having a lull... who here uses an EWB (Electronic Whiteboard) in their classrooms? PhilB: I'm curious if anyone else finds it a very cool tool, even more useful than simply using a videoprojector. VanceS: I follow the topic, but don'tuse it ClaireB: vance, i am setting thngs up so that you can see what it looks like SherrieC joined the room. ClaireB: ok, vance, go to http://www.edvista.com/claire/twit.jpg ThomasLev: hi Sherrie ClaireB: i took a screenshot of what twitter prsenter looks like when you log in ClaireB: that's a screenshot of my last tweet PhilB: I'd used EWBs over the years from time to time, but never had one in my own classroom. But for the last 3 months I've been using the E-Beam portable EWB and it's very, very useful. But I guess I gushed about this same topic last week. <g> ClaireB: that's ok, phil :-) ThomasLev: brb PhilB: So, what is a "tweet" - twitter-based voice chat? VanceS: so to read these big tweets I have to go to Twitter presenter? ClaireB left the room (signed off). ClaireB joined the room. ClaireB left the room (signed off). ClaireB joined the room. ClaireB: somehow i knocked myself out DennisOl: I've done that. Vance once said I'd found a revolving door! ClaireB: so vance, did you get the screen shot? VanceS: yes I did claire, you are so sweet DennisOl: I also saw it. ClaireB: if that were live, you could click on each number and go to another of my tweets VanceS: a tweet is the word fro what you see at http://www.edvista.com/claire/twit.jpg ClaireB: i am trying to figure out how this would be useful to a presenter VanceS: it's a short message posted in twitter SherrieC left the room (signed off). VanceS: oh, I see, it let's you show your tweets to a room? ClaireB: if you want to present text to an audience, there are certainly easier ways to do it ClaireB: do you mean a real room or virtual one VanceS: yes, unless you want to phone in your presentation via jott.com ClaireB: lol VanceS: like you're stuck in traffic and they've started without you PhilB: So, twitter is a sort of shared whiteboard? DennisOl: http://jott.com/default.aspx VanceS: twitter is very interesting Phil ThomasLev: I have to go - see you, all ClaireB: see ya, tom VanceS: CLaire has a great page on it VanceS: it might be in my delicious links DennisOl: Take care, Tom. ThomasLev left the room (signed off). VanceS: http://del.icio.us/vancestevens/twitter ClaireB: http://www.pitt.edu/~cbsiskin/ling2148/twitter.html but i have not updated it for awhile PhilB: Ah, now I understand: "Twitter is a free social networking and micro-blogging service" VanceS: Theres a teachertube video here VanceS: http://www.digitalang.com/2008/04/twitter-microblogging/ VanceS: common craft PhilB: Looks too fast for my blood. VanceS: you have to try it Phi VanceS: it takes a while to 'get' it VanceS: there's a great post that explains VanceS: I'll find it ClaireB: many people don't get it, but i'm an addict PhilB: lol! From the last link, "Out in the centre of town? Seen something amazing? Let your classmates and friends know all about it! Practice your English while your doing so!" DennisOl: I have mixed feelings about Twitter. PhilB: Your ---> You're ClaireB: my grad students this spring hated it, but i think i set it up wrong. next time i'll set it up better ClaireB: what are your mixed feelings, dennis? PhilB: i gs u hav 2 like sms-language PhilB: Must dash, called away. DennisOl: I like seeing short updates, but sometimes I'm put off by it because it seems kind of competitive--like "Look how busy _I_ am!" PhilB left the room (signed off). DennisOl: I'm not as active in Twitter as I once was, but I'm still not ready to stop using it. SherrieC joined the room. ClaireB: that is interesting dennis. i guess i just figured that we're all so busy and the tweets just reflect that ClaireB: i didn't see it as competition ClaireB: just about everyone i know is busy to the point of frenzy. not a good thing -- just something to complain about DennisOl: Understood! VanceS: This is the post VanceS: http://gnuosphere.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/questioning-twitter/ VanceS: you have to read the comments ClaireB: yeah i remember that one VanceS: I wanted phil to see it VanceS: too bad DennisOl: Very interesting comments. ClaireB: what is too bad? VanceS: when I 'got' twitter was when Jeff Utech gave a presentation at K-12 VanceS: shade (german) VanceS: desole VanceS: that Phil has left us and cannot benetif further from our whatever it is we do VanceS: are sherrie and sedat with us? ClaireB: i dont' know ClaireB: vance, did you give nelba my message? VanceS: no I didn't VanceS: they are talking about technorati now VanceS: would you like to join us there? EricRA joined the room. ClaireB: don't worry about -- i think that francoise sent her an email ClaireB: no to joining -- i'll have to leave soon VanceS: yeah, it seems like I'd have to change the subject ClaireB: hi erika SherrieC: yes i am with everyone. i am actually just observing right now for a class i am taking. VanceS: Hi erika DennisOl: Is it Erika or Eric? EricRA: Could someone please tell me how to use this webstie EricRA: I need to set up an office for my class where is that? ClaireB: sorry; it's eric. i had erika on the brain EricRA left the room. ClaireB: observing is good, sherrie. feel free to join in SherrieC: thank you. NinaAL joined the room. DennisOl: Nina! ClaireB: sherrie, what is the class that you are observing for? NinaAL: Hi! NinaAL: Hi Dennis! EricRA joined the room. EricRA left the room. NinaAL: Hi Claire! ClaireB left the room (signed off). ClaireB joined the room. DennisOl: How are things in MD? NinaAL: Hi Vance and everyone. I see that I am too late today. ClaireB: it's nina from the ukraine ClaireB: hi nina DennisOl: Oops! Sorry, Nina! ClaireB: are you all set to go to japan? SherrieC: i'm am working on a master's degree in instructional techonology and we are currently taking a class on synchronous communication NinaAL: Yes, Clairуб you are right. VanceS: who me? NinaAL: Nope, nothing yet. ClaireB: sherrie, this is the weekly webheads discussion, and you are very welcome to participate VanceS: yes indeed ClaireB: webheads has been going for several years now. it's a great supportive community NinaAL: I am silent about japan, as I still don't have tickets, money, visa. ClaireB: hmm, are you in communication with tom robb about your travel arrangements? SherrieC: great thanks. and what are you chats usually about? NinaAL Claire, yes, sure. He says not to worry, but time flies as an errow DennisOl: Sherrie: They're free-form, but always connected with uses of technology. ClaireB: about the use of technology in language learning but also it's a social meeting DebraLM joined the room. DebraLM left the room. ClaireB: nina, i think that there is still time ClaireB: i would trust tom if i were you DennisOl: Yes, I'm sure Tom will make everything work out, Nina. ClaireB: sometimes our discussions are a little silly, but i always learn something here too VanceS: silly? ahem ClaireB: one thing we do is try out new tools and learn from one another's experiences with using them SherrieC: wow thats great. yes i see that obviously you all have known each other for a while ClaireB: well, sometimes i am silly; i won't speak for others SherrieC: so everyone here teaches a language? ClaireB: i'm not sure about that VanceS: we have serious discussions on topics of interest to educators VanceS: interspersed with gay repartie ClaireB: yes, we really do DennisOl: Love it! ClaireB: but we do tend to tease one another sometimes DennisOl: repartie = repartee??? VanceS: we do? VanceS: thank you dennis (repartee) NinaAL thinks that tickets is the main problem. The cost has been growing with each day. She's afraid that her traveling might be canceled SherrieC: with my program right now i am actually working towards creating and developing an online high school course for spanish students VanceS: you forget the accent btw ClaireB: nina, how recently have you discussed this with tom? DennisOl: Is there an accent? NinaAL: Your discussion here is very interesting, and my thoughts seem too silly. ;-) ClaireB: sherrie, is the course for students at a particular school or for anyone? NinaAL: last week ClaireB: no question is too silly SherrieC: it is actually for anyone. it is run by george mason university (just outside of washington, DC) and a couple of the local school systems support it. VanceS: there shyoudl be, it's french VanceS: I think (pretty sure) ClaireB: ´´é DennisOl: It comes from repartie in French. ClaireB: yes, you can type accents in here SherrieC: toa.gmu.edu is the address for it. The Online Academy DennisOl: I don't think it has an accent—é, è, ê, ë, or whatever. ClaireB: is that your job to develop and maintain the course, sherrie? NinaAL: Sherrie, what platform it is on? SherrieC: yes, currently in my group of 3, we are developing the course for spanish 2. once we have it finished (the end of this summer). it should be up and running for the school year and my group of 3 will act as mentors to the students who want to take the course. the advisor of the program is also simultaneosly teaching a course to other students who just want to be mentors within the program. SherrieC: platform? ClaireB: machine type -- pc or mac VanceS: sorry dennis, repartie in french VanceS: I stand corrected then VanceS: thanks DennisOl: I was just curious. NinaAL: No, I mean Moodle, or any other. SherrieC: it should work for both. i work on a mac at home but we also work on pcs at school SherrieC: it should work on both a pc or mac. NinaAL: Our university uses Moodle for online courses for our students VanceS: it's good and helps one another to chase down these small points ClaireB: dennis, i also wondered about the spelling but since sometimes i tease vance excessively, i didn't want to say anything :-) ClaireB: it's good that you did because we have to keep him in line VanceS: true VanceS was about to step out of line but thinks better of it ClaireB: true that i tease you excessively or true that we have to keep you in line DennisOl: I didn't mean to make a big deal about it, but accents interet me, and I didn't remember seeing repartee with an accent. SherrieC: oh okay. i'm not familiar with moodle VanceS: interest me too dennis, and also I like etymology DennisOl: interest me VanceS: moodle? DennisOl: Me, too. ClaireB: moodle is a learning management system like blackboard, but it ClaireB: it's open source VanceS: and also it's not evil NinaAL: Yes, we are happy with Moddle at the Uni. ClaireB: did you guys see the bollywood mashup about blackboard? ClaireB: hilarious ClaireB: if not, I'll try to find the url DennisOl: No, but it sounds like fun! DennisOl: (the Bollywood mashup) VanceS: I tagged it http://del.iciou.us/vancestevens/blackboard VanceS: it should be the first one up DennisOl: Is this it, Cl/aire? DennisOl: http://devel2.njit.edu/serendipity/index.php?/archives/1031-Blackboard-In-Bollywood.html VanceS: yay ClaireB: that is not it. it's a series of about 8 videos VanceS: that was stephen's post about it today ClaireB: here it is http://metamedia.typepad.com/metamedia/2008/04/the-adventures.html DennisOl: http://metamedia.typepad.com/metamedia/2008/04/the-adventures.html ClaireB: there are 9 episodes -- each funnier than the one before DennisOl: I'll be sure to check them out. VanceS: sorry, my url should be http://del.icio.us/vancestevens/blackboard VanceS: I was m/tasking VanceS: yes, got it ClaireB: definitely just for the in-crowd; for example, it assumes that you know that d2l means desire to learn NinaAL: Blackboard isn't a free source. DennisOl: It was free at one time, I think. ClaireB: no, that is exactly the point. the blackboard people are represented as mafiosos who extort a lot of money when they could be using moodle ClaireB: yes, in the beginning, one could have free courses on blackboard VanceS: sort of, they were on a slow server ClaireB: right NinaAL: TESOL used to use Blackboard for courses online in 90th DennisOl: Back in a few minutes. Have to go bring in the morning paper (unless someone has stolen it). ClaireB: yes, but they switched to desire to learn VanceS: now you can use Nicenet to get the old bb effect ClaireB: it is hosted at the university of wisconsin ClaireB: true -- fine for english, but nicenet does not support non-roman fonts NinaAL: Nicenet? I used it in 1997-98 with my students a lot. ClaireB: so not so good for some other languages ClaireB: nina, i can see why you were selected for worldcall! ClaireB: you are a true veteran NinaAL: ;-) really? ClaireB: yep ClaireB: i was not part of the selection process this time, but i can see that they did a good job NinaAL: hmm, from 1996, I first joined TESL-L NinaAL: Thank you, Clair. I am happy to hear that from you. ClaireB: i am looking forward to meeting you in fukuoka VanceS: me too NinaAL: I hope that all the unsolved problems will be fixed up. I do hope to meet you f2f there. ClaireB: i am looking forward to meeting you too vance VanceS: ok, on that note VanceS: tie to stop this VanceS: and go home DennisOl: It's been a good discussion (as usual). ClaireB: yes indeed, and i should go too. NinaAL: I am looking forward to seeing Vance also. I've known you virtually from 1999 - my first visit EV at TESOL Convention in NY ClaireB: bye everyone DennisOl: Take care, Claire. VanceS: coo VanceS: cool ClaireB left the room (signed off). NinaAL: see you Clair NinaAL: bye-bye DennisOl: You take care, too, Nina! DennisOl: You as well, Vance. VanceS: cheers dennis NinaAL: It was nice seeing you here, too. DennisOl: Bye from Phoenix . . . . DennisOl: Thanks. DennisOl: Hugs! NinaAL: {{{HUGS}}}} to all. DennisOl left the room (signed off). VanceS left the room (signed off). 2008.05.25 07:20:15 Signoff